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State Democrats Propose June 3 Primary-By-Mail

Florida Chairwoman Admits Chances Are Slim

POSTED: Thursday, March 13, 2008
UPDATED: 5:37 pm EDT March 13, 2008

Florida's Democratic Party chairwoman is urging Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Sen. Barack Obama, the national party and her own state's congressional delegation to consider a combined vote-by-mail/in-person plan as a redo of the Jan. 29 presidential primary.

Karen Thurman said Thursday that the plan would only work if the all stakeholders agreed with the plan and at least $10 million could be raised through donations to fund the private election.

The state party's plan calls for ballots to be mailed to all registered Democratic voters by the end of May and to set up 50 regional voting offices to help "disadvantaged communities" participate in an election ending June 3, Thurman said in a memo to the campaigns and state and national party leaders.

"There is no question that we must move quickly to deal with the dispute over Florida's Democratic presidential primary. Fingers have been pointed in every direction, but how we arrived at this breaking point is irrelevant. The stark reality is that all Democrats lose if this is not resolved immediately," Thurman wrote in a memo that included a draft of the plan.

Thurman also cited a poll of Democratic voters in the Jan. 29 primary showing that 59 percent of them support holding a revote.

RAW: Thurman's News Conference On Primary Plan
Thurman's Memo To Clinton, Obama, DNC, Party Leaders
(PDF file)
Florida Democratic Party Solicits Input By 6 p.m. Friday

Thurman asked party leaders and the Democratic voters of Florida to review the draft and send feedback by Friday. On Monday, if there is consensus that the party should go forward with the plan, it would begin raising the estimated $10 million to $12 million to pay for the do-over while also gathering public comment.

"If this is not what the people and the candidates want, then we're not going to do it," Thurman said during a Thursday news conference on the proposal.

Asked if the plan will be implemented, Thurman said, "I have a feeling that this is probably closer to not, than yes."

Although Sen. Bill Nelson supports the idea, Florida's nine Democratic congressmen voted Tuesday night to oppose a mail-in vote.

"It's not going to work. We've never done it before. How are you going to do the follow up? How are you going to verify the signatures?" Rep. Corrine Brown, D-Jacksonville, told WJXT on Wednesday.

Democrats in Florida and Michigan have been scrambling to come up with alternatives to ensure their delegates will be seated at the national convention in Denver this summer. The Democratic National Committee punished the states for moving their primaries ahead of Feb. 5 and stripped them of all their delegates.

Clinton won Florida and Michigan, although she was the only major candidate on the ballot in Michigan.

"In my view there are two options -- honor the results or hold new primary elections. I don't see any other solutions that are fair and honor the commitment that 2.5 million voters made in the Democratic primaries in those two states," Clinton said Wednesday.

Obama has said he is concerned about accuracy and fairness with a mail-in vote organized so quickly. Clinton's campaign has not commented on the mail-in option, except to say it will accept a do-over of the vote and "consider other scenarios as appropriate."

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Obama told reporters Wednesday that his campaign is consulting with officials in Florida, Michigan and the DNC and he's confident something will be worked out.

"My bottom line is, I do want to make sure that the Florida and Michigan delegations have an opportunity to participate in the convention," he said. "And we want to figure out an equitable way to do that."

In South Florida on Wednesday, DNC chairman Howard Dean said he was committed to finding a way to seat delegates from the two states at the nominating convention, but again ruled out using the results of the primaries held in violation of party rules.

"We like to do it in a way that's fair, that both sides see as fair," Dean told WPLG-TV in Miami. "You got to do it in a way that both campaigns agree that's fair."

In Washington Wednesday, Sens. Debbie Stabenow of Michigan and Bill Nelson of Florida, both Clinton backers, spoke to a meeting of Clinton's national fundraising team. They said the issue of seating the delegation needed to be resolved, probably through a revote, according to a person who attended. The attendee said the senators discussed potential problems with a mail-in vote, even though Nelson favors one.

But members of Florida's congressional delegation said in a statement late Tuesday that they oppose such a step "or any redo of any kind."

Officials at the Democratic National Committee were working behind the scenes to get the Florida delegation to come together and agree on a solution so the delegates can be seated.

Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who backs Clinton, spoke to DNC Chairman Howard Dean and said the delegation will work with him on a solution. But she said she will not change her mind about a mail-in vote, in part because seniors who spend the summer up North, poor residents who rent homes and often move and others could be left out.

"This is totally experimental," she said, adding Florida voters have been shaken by past election problems, including the 2000 presidential recount, and need their confidence restored. "Having a party-run election that's never been done before is not a way to do that."

Clinton also told NPR in an interview that she believes the Michigan results are fair and should be honored even though Obama removed his name from the ballot.

"That was his choice, remember," she said. "There was no rule or requirement that he take his name off the ballot, and his supporters ran a very aggressive campaign to try to get people to vote uncommitted. So it wasn't that he didn't participate at all. In fact there was a real effort to get people to vote uncommitted, and I still won 55 percent of the vote."

In Florida, state Senate Democratic Leader Steve Geller dismissed the Florida House members' concerns and said the mail-in vote is the only reasonable way to seat the state's delegates.

"What is more unacceptable to me is our having no input at all, so if I have to choose between two bad choices, I'll choose the one that's least objectionable," Geller said.

The party would run the election, rather than the state. It would hire a private election management company, an accounting firm and security and would allow representatives from each campaign to observe. The state would be paid to verify ballot signatures.

Thurman also said the election would help the party's voter outreach efforts.

The idea is gaining ground because the race between Obama and Clinton is still unresolved.

Under party rules, Florida and Michigan would have until June 10 to hold another vote.

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