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Rob Reiner poses for photographers at the photo call for the film 'This is Spinal Tap' at the 75th international film festival, Cannes, southern France, Wednesday, May 18, 2022. (AP Photo/Daniel Cole)

CANNES โ€“ One of the most memorable lines โ€” and Rob Reiner's personal favorite โ€” of โ€œThis Is Spinal Tapโ€ goes: โ€œThereโ€™s a fine line between stupid and clever.โ€

You could say the same thing about the classic 1984 mockumentary. It could have so easily not panned out. No one in Hollywood thought it was a good idea. It was saved by Norman Lear who, after Reiner made his pitch and departed, is said to have turned to the executives in the room and announced: โ€œWhoโ€™s going to tell him he canโ€™t do it?โ€

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Now, Reiner and company want to get the band back together for a sequel. Reiner was at the Cannes Film Festival this week for an anniversary screening on the beach of โ€œThis Is Spinal Tapโ€ and to drum up excitement for the just-announced sequel that will also see Michael McKean, Harry Shearer, and Christopher Guest reprise their roles as band members David St. Hubbins, Derek Smalls and Nigel Tufnel.

โ€œThe bar is high. Thereโ€™s no question about it,โ€ Reiner said in an interview by the beach. โ€œAnd we wrestled with that forever, whether or not we should even bother to do it. But we had an idea. Over the years, people have come up and said, โ€˜Oh, you should do a sequel.โ€™ Weโ€™ve always said, โ€˜No, no, no.โ€™ But as time went by, we finally had something we think can work. And weโ€™ll find out!โ€

The 1984 movie had no script, just a four-page outline. It was almost entirely improvised. Reiner's first cut of the film was seven hours long. Even the jokes they did have planned โ€” like the infamous โ€œthese amps goes to 11โ€ scene โ€” were filmed off-the-cuff.

โ€œQuick!โ€ Reiner recalls shouting. โ€œMake an amp with an extra number on it!โ€

But what teetered so close to never panning out in the first place, has of course become one of the most beloved comedies of the '80s and a massive influence to countless mockumentaries that have followed. It is even in the Library of Congress.

Reiner assures that this time, too, there will be no screenplay. He will depend on the still sharp improvisational talents of his cast, who have carried on Spinal Tap โ€” a fictional band turned into a semi-real one โ€” in occasional concerts in the intervening decades. Reiner's character, the director Marti DeBergi (styled after Martin Scorsese in The Band concert documentary โ€œThe Last Waltzโ€), will naturally return.

โ€œHere we are 40 years later and Marti DeBergi โ€” who has not been the greatest filmmaker, letโ€™s put it that way. The man made โ€˜Kramer vs. Kramer vs. Godzilla.โ€™ And I think he did โ€˜Attack of the 52-Foot Woman,โ€™โ€ says Reiner. โ€œBecause he said thereโ€™s going to be this reunion, we wanted to make this film, and weโ€™ve given him free reign.โ€

When โ€œThis Is Spinal Tapโ€ was first released, many thought Spinal Tap was a real band. Reiner, who studied rock documentaries like โ€œThe Kids Are Alrightโ€ and โ€œThe Song Remains the Sameโ€ for preparation, enlisted a cinematographer, Peter Smokler, with a documentary background. What was real and what was parody was almost indistinguishable. Sting, Reiner says, has since told him he watched it countless times but didn't know if he should laugh or cry.

And some bits were taken straight from rock โ€˜nโ€™ roll lore. The band getting lost on their way to the stage came from an experience by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, who may have been enjoying the pre-show backstage atmosphere too much.

Asked if Scorsese ever spoke to him about Reiner's riff on him, Reiner responds: โ€œInitially, Marty got mad. But over the years, heโ€™s come to love it. We did โ€˜Wolf of Wall Streetโ€™ a few years ago and we talked about it. He said, โ€˜Ah, I love it. I love that you did that.โ€™โ€

โ€œThe Last Waltz" will again be a major touchstone for the sequel which Reiner is developing for his re-launched production company Castle Rock. Reiner's plan entails Spinal Tap reconvening for one last show.

Many of Reiner's most beloved films are seemingly sequel-proof. Recapturing the tone of โ€œThe Princess Brideโ€? Inconceivable. (Writer William Goldman did try, though.) And it's just as hard to imagine the magic of โ€œStand by Meโ€ or โ€œWhen Harry Met Sallyโ€ being captured a second time. But โ€œSpinal Tap,โ€ Reiner thinks, isn't done rocking.

โ€œIf you have an idea,โ€ he says, โ€œthen you say, โ€˜OK.โ€™โ€

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